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		<title>By: The U.S. Trade Deficit Increases: Alternative Explanations &#124; Economic Policy &#124; Bob McTeer &#124; NCPA</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-11300</link>
		<dc:creator>The U.S. Trade Deficit Increases: Alternative Explanations &#124; Economic Policy &#124; Bob McTeer &#124; NCPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] explanation is consistent with what I’ve suggested before&#8211;that more net capital inflows (and thus larger trade deficits) may be necessary to make up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Saving versus Savings &#124; Economic Policy &#124; Bob McTeer &#124; NCPA</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10402</link>
		<dc:creator>Saving versus Savings &#124; Economic Policy &#124; Bob McTeer &#124; NCPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Growth Website       Saving versus Savings  My recent post on The Illusion of Saving set a new record for me in visits and hits. That made me feel good. I would feel even better if [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10370</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Investment is not a necessary condition for sector saving. If someone was pretending that household saving was the same as national saving, or that an increase in household saving meant an increase in investment - that would be an illusion. But nobody’s claiming that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investment is not a necessary condition for sector saving. If someone was pretending that household saving was the same as national saving, or that an increase in household saving meant an increase in investment &#8211; that would be an illusion. But nobody’s claiming that.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10368</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. The personal saving rate certainly increased. That&#039;s not an illusion at all; it’s a fact based on the definition of the personal saving rate. The government is accommodating the demand for increased personal saving through additional spending and cutting taxes, supplying bonds as the savings vehicle. Saving and dissaving can be redistributed across different sectors without necessarily relating to investment. Redistribution of saving between government and households is the story here. One question of course is what effect this will have on future tax rates. If future taxes increase, then future personal saving rates will decline, other things equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. The personal saving rate certainly increased. That&#8217;s not an illusion at all; it’s a fact based on the definition of the personal saving rate. The government is accommodating the demand for increased personal saving through additional spending and cutting taxes, supplying bonds as the savings vehicle. Saving and dissaving can be redistributed across different sectors without necessarily relating to investment. Redistribution of saving between government and households is the story here. One question of course is what effect this will have on future tax rates. If future taxes increase, then future personal saving rates will decline, other things equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Will the Budget Deficit Strengthen the Dollar? &#124; Economic Policy &#124; Bob McTeer &#124; NCPA</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10361</link>
		<dc:creator>Will the Budget Deficit Strengthen the Dollar? &#124; Economic Policy &#124; Bob McTeer &#124; NCPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Bond Beat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Random Walk, before the 4th of July holiday&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bond Beat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Random Walk, before the 4th of July holiday&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10350</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree with you more!  An additional fallacy in the savings myth is that it is good for and will contribute to the turnaround of the economy.

At this point, almost everyone is saving money and deferring spending because of the uncertainty that exists with regards to employment, housing values and the equity markets.

The economy cannot make a meaningful turn until the consumer is comfortable in their own long-term well being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree with you more!  An additional fallacy in the savings myth is that it is good for and will contribute to the turnaround of the economy.</p>
<p>At this point, almost everyone is saving money and deferring spending because of the uncertainty that exists with regards to employment, housing values and the equity markets.</p>
<p>The economy cannot make a meaningful turn until the consumer is comfortable in their own long-term well being.</p>
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		<title>By: JustOne</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10348</link>
		<dc:creator>JustOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to save sunlight ... but there is a lot of it and every day more arrives (so far at least).  It&#039;s sort of like the manna provided miraculously in the Old Testament.  Solar energy is the feedstock for our biosphere.  A little of that is &quot;savings&quot; that will last until it dissipates.

The government does not make sunlight or harvest sunlight or save sunlight.  It can only have sunlight that is harvested by someone else.  It confiscates and &quot;redistributes&quot; with some level of inefficiency.

It can confiscate from those that plant and harvest and give to those that don’t as long as some continue to plant and harvest. When producers decide it is not worth it to work while others benefit, the government will have nothing to redistribute.

That is the fallacy of big government. Big government does nothing but take from producers what producers are willing and able to give. At some point, why bother if ones labor and effort will just be confiscated anyway. (I guess that is why I have always liked the movie Dr. Zhivago. It makes this fallacy clear.)

When the government trys to “control” health care costs or transportation or crop production, more effort is diverted from production to control and there is, therefore, less produced to control. If it wants to reduce the cost of health care, the government needs to incentives more production of health care and remove impediments. The marketplace will adjust the cost of an abundant supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to save sunlight &#8230; but there is a lot of it and every day more arrives (so far at least).  It&#8217;s sort of like the manna provided miraculously in the Old Testament.  Solar energy is the feedstock for our biosphere.  A little of that is &#8220;savings&#8221; that will last until it dissipates.</p>
<p>The government does not make sunlight or harvest sunlight or save sunlight.  It can only have sunlight that is harvested by someone else.  It confiscates and &#8220;redistributes&#8221; with some level of inefficiency.</p>
<p>It can confiscate from those that plant and harvest and give to those that don’t as long as some continue to plant and harvest. When producers decide it is not worth it to work while others benefit, the government will have nothing to redistribute.</p>
<p>That is the fallacy of big government. Big government does nothing but take from producers what producers are willing and able to give. At some point, why bother if ones labor and effort will just be confiscated anyway. (I guess that is why I have always liked the movie Dr. Zhivago. It makes this fallacy clear.)</p>
<p>When the government trys to “control” health care costs or transportation or crop production, more effort is diverted from production to control and there is, therefore, less produced to control. If it wants to reduce the cost of health care, the government needs to incentives more production of health care and remove impediments. The marketplace will adjust the cost of an abundant supply.</p>
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		<title>By: The Illusion of Saving &#124; Contrarian Musings</title>
		<link>http://taxesandbudget-blog.ncpa.org/the-illusion-of-saving/comment-page-1/#comment-10344</link>
		<dc:creator>The Illusion of Saving &#124; Contrarian Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McTeer, former Dallas Fed President, has this to say about the increase in savings reported in the last income and spending reports: What happened in May [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if government will pick up the slack (in a significant way) left by private lenders tightening their lending.  Personally, I&#039;m not big on these stimulus gimmicks, because my guess is that they distort the reality of the situation, thereby delaying or possibly thwarting market forces.

Of course, all the Keynesian economists that have emerged from the woodwork have made it quite clear that the stimulus is &#039;necessary.&#039;  I guess even if much of it isn&#039;t spent immediately.  Frankly, I understand the Fed&#039;s current stance and the measures they have taken.  I just don&#039;t think that temporary distributions of capital, filtered through inefficient government bureaucracy, will do much good - increased personal savings or no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if government will pick up the slack (in a significant way) left by private lenders tightening their lending.  Personally, I&#8217;m not big on these stimulus gimmicks, because my guess is that they distort the reality of the situation, thereby delaying or possibly thwarting market forces.</p>
<p>Of course, all the Keynesian economists that have emerged from the woodwork have made it quite clear that the stimulus is &#8216;necessary.&#8217;  I guess even if much of it isn&#8217;t spent immediately.  Frankly, I understand the Fed&#8217;s current stance and the measures they have taken.  I just don&#8217;t think that temporary distributions of capital, filtered through inefficient government bureaucracy, will do much good &#8211; increased personal savings or no.</p>
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